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I have been reading all there is on worming chooks as I too want to find the best wormer to use that doesn't cost the earth and an alternate as it is always best so the bugs don't get use to just one.

My questions are:-

1. I use an ivermectin based product on my horses for worming can I use say 5ml per 1 litre of water on my chooks?

2. Cydectin pour on I use for my 2 dexter cows and it is moxidectin based. Can I use this on the chooks?

3. If I did should I use it as a pour on say 1 to 2 drops per chook or can I use pour on in water for internal use for chooks??????

4. Should I alternate on a yearly basis between moxdectin and ivermectin or more often??

5. Or should I alternate with something like Nilverm or Big L.

6. I am currently using Big L poulrty wormer as I was not aware that one could use the moxidectin and ivermectin products on poulrty as I have had backyard chooks for about 10 years but now want to take breeding chooks seriously and I am not very knowledgable when it comes to chooks hence all the research.

Can anyone help me with this very confusing subject.

Give me a horse and I am fine with treating, training and breeding but gee these chooks leave me for dead.

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im not sure but your local vet should now just give them a call


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Moxydectin is fine for treating internal and external parasites. I dont think it will do tapeworm, which is why I rotate every 3 months. Like all the dectins, they are systemic, they rely on the parasite feeding off the host, therefore its efficiency in treating lice isnt that great.

Moxydectin you can get from Knox Bird Clinic in Melbourne, they will send it out to you, last time I ordered it was about $27.00 per 125ml, but it lasts for a while. The mix is 5ml per litre.

Not sure about Cydectin, I know it is moxydectin, but in what strength I am unsure, however I have heard of people using it, just a couple of drops on the back of the neck.

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I have been reading all there is on worming chooks as I too want to find the best wormer to use that doesn't cost the earth and an alternate as it is always best so the bugs don't get use to just one.

My questions are:-

1. I use an ivermectin based product on my horses for worming can I use say 5ml per 1 litre of water on my chooks?

1.2ml per litre or round down.

2. Cydectin pour on I use for my 2 dexter cows and it is moxidectin based. Can I use this on the chooks?

3. If I did should I use it as a pour on say 1 to 2 drops per chook or can I use pour on in water for internal use for chooks??????

4. Should I alternate on a yearly basis between moxdectin and ivermectin or more often??

5. Or should I alternate with something like Nilverm or Big L.

6. I am currently using Big L poulrty wormer as I was not aware that one could use the moxidectin and ivermectin products on poulrty as I have had backyard chooks for about 10 years but now want to take breeding chooks seriously and I am not very knowledgable when it comes to chooks hence all the research.

If you stick with either or both Nilverm and BigL you should be covered.

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Can anyone help me with this very confusing subject.

Give me a horse and I am fine with treating, training and breeding but gee these chooks leave me for dead.

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not sure why the bump-----has the question not been answered?

the dectins are the same family, u can use either or----, as long as it is not oil based you can add it to the water----or topically is fine

if you have a problem with tape worms you could treat them with a wormer alternately, the poultry wormer u already have



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I use Ivomec I got from my vet. It cost me $4 for a bottle that has lasted me about two years. It treats them for lice, mite and worms. My label on the bottle says 1/4ml per 1Kg (I don't know what strength it is, but your vet will tell you over the phone. I use it for all ages, only downside is it says don't eat eggs for two weeks after, ut I have incubated them without any problem. I guess there is a possibility of trace in the eggs for human consumption. I recommend it!

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Isn't it weird that there is a weeks' witholding period for eating eggs but a nil witholding period for milk :-? :lol:

After reading the leaflet there is still a 42 day witholding period for eating the meat :) .....Why isn't there a witholding period for milk?? :-?


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not sure why the bump-----has the question not been answered?

the dectins are the same family, u can use either or----, as long as it is not oil based you can add it to the water----or topically is fine

if you have a problem with tape worms you could treat them with a wormer alternately, the poultry wormer u already have



cheers p


Thanks guys,

The question was answered beautifully by PA and I found it very helpful but I guess this thread should be in Poultry health and well being as the question of ivermectin came up there very recently hence the bump. I felt the information in this thread was extremely good and relevant. :)

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Deans' Poultry wrote:
Isn't it weird that there is a weeks' witholding period for eating eggs but a nil witholding period for milk :-? :lol:

After reading the leaflet there is still a 42 day witholding period for eating the meat :) .....Why isn't there a witholding period for milk?? :-?




I believe the withholding period is because there has been no research into whether there is contamination of eggs, such research is very expensive :cry: and for backyard use who would fund it?----I believe they have done research into whether the drug passes into milk(funded by the dairy industry) and as it doesn't there is no withholding period

if they put a withholding on it, then the manufacturers are protecting themselves legally-----without the need for expensive research :lol: cheers p


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