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Don't think that serious breeders would appreciate being called "sucker" they do pay up to and even more than $10 an egg especially for Marans, they can fetch up to $350 or more a breeding pair. Some exceptional quality birds can reach exorbitant prices that breeders are most willing to pay for.

There is a market out there if you have the goods.

This isn't about you or me or the chicken getting a wonderful experience Petite Poulet, it's about Winny asking about what price to price eggs at. My point was about the consumer who purchases eggs to obtain a desired outcome and how much they are willing to pay for the gamble, based on the pricing point that Winny is trying to achieve.

Most people I know, purchase eggs of a specialised breed so they can obtain a few good females from the bunch.

I purchased cheap eggs so I could give Clara the experience! I would never purchase $10 eggs just to give a hen a broody experience. I would purchase $10 eggs so I could get some females of that breed.

$10 for an egg is a premium price and if I were to purchase $10 eggs it would be because I see the value of the breed when taking the gamble of getting a female from the eggs that I pay a premium price for.

Winny needs to look at the product and decide if it is a premium product in order to obtain the premium price and think about who the target market is. If the product is a premium product then Winny should be successful in obtaining the desired price, but, if the target market is backyard breeders (which is where most people start) then $10 may be a bit high.


THIS is my point.

AND, This is my point.

Had I paid $10 for these four eggs it would have cost me $40 to get a female! Then the cost of feeding, medicating, vaccinating etc..The cost exceeds the cost of purchasing one POL for $50.

If you had have paid $10 for your eggs it would have cost you $70 to get your one female.

I do not believe I said anything offensive apart from one light hearted remark about a sucker being born every minute. Everything I said was genuinely about helping Winny with relation to the question about pricing the eggs and target markets, and now I'm being attacked and having my words twisted for a meaningless phrase and using Petite Poulet's hatch rate as an example.

You say you are not having a go at me Petite Poulet but you asking me to "clarify exactly what [I] am saying" with a sad face, which indicates you are not happy with what I have said because I used your low female hatching rates as an example. My bad, I should have used my own, next time I will.

And HH, I didn't call anyone a sucker, especially serious breeders. I said one was born every minute. So don't twist my words, because I am quite offended by that remark. And you say "there is a market out there if you have the goods", which is such a broad statement, but outlined in the point I was trying to make.

$350 for a breeding pair of fully grown birds is a totally different thing. The post is about eggs, not fully grown birds that have been proven to be a breeding pair. Which even I can see value in paying that much if they are a proven breeding pair of Marans or even Buff Orpingtons for that matter.

Winny needs to decide the target market based on the goods at hand. Superior product, can equal a superior price, or, standard product can equal standard price. Winny needs to determine what the demand is like out there for Buff Orpingtons and without alot of R&D it will probably be alot of trial and adjustment.

That's all I was saying. I wasn't trying to offend anyone or calling anyone a sucker or I wasn't poking fun or reducing Clara's or the Pretty One efforts.

Some will if they really want them and they are very good quality

Exactly right HH people do pay that for eggs if they really want them so if winny wants to ask $10 an egg then GO FOR IT! remember you don't have to buy them

Sorry Chicka-Dee but you are wrong many people DO pay that or more for fertile eggs and they are not a sucker just keen to get what they really want. If the seller and the buyer are happy then there is no problems is there if you don't like the price don't buy them

Yes I understand, that's why I said 'few' and not 'none'.

And that is my point exactly!

You can ask the price but people don't have to pay for them, which defeats the purpose of trying to sell your goods if people won't pay for them.

Wouldn't Winny be better off to start out at a lower price point to see how much demand is out there & then if demand is high, then the price can be increased until the supply demand equilibrium is reached.

You are all concentrating on a silly comment that i made and not helping Winny with her original question.

If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong about people not paying $10 for an egg, and no I wouldn't pay $10 for an egg, so I won't, but like I said, this post isn't about me, it's to help Winny with her pricing point. But at least I tried to help by offering a price that I thought was possible based on research I did for Winny.

Why don't you help Winny by answering the question about what price to sell Buff Orpington eggs for, intead of concentrating on silly comments made by me, because I see you made 3 posts Chukar, but not one was to help Winny.



Isnt "Some" the same as "very few", which is exactly what WW said. So I am failing to understand the point of that post. Are you admiting $10 is a premium price? Because in not one of your three posts did you try & help to give Winny any indication of how much to sell Buff Orpinton eggs for.

And, it wasn't even Winny that said the $10 price point, it was LOCKTHEGATE.

At least LOCKTHEGATE & I tried to give Winny an indication of how much to sell them for.

If your going to fill someone's post with attacks on others comments, you could at least put one post up about the subject content to help the person with their original inquiry.

Calm down Chicka-Dee you are getting all worked up over nothing

Its pretty clear we are saying yes to $10 an egg and see how it goes you can always come down in price

My post 'some' was reaffirming that 'some' will and agreeing with wickedwing that a 'few' or 'some' will as he pointed out

No one has attacked as you put it your posts so I will finish where I started calm down!

P.s

There in red was my advice

I don't think it's clear at all.

Clear is saying "yes, we would pay $10 for a Buff Orpington egg".

All you said was:

If you're going to help someone with pricing then make a suggestion on the price, or tell them you agree with a particular price & that you would pay that for the egg. Not, " if you want to ask $10 an egg then GO FOR IT". I don't see that as helpful or affirming the price is reasonable. All that statement says is Winny has the right to price the goods however he/she sees fit. Which he/she could have done without posting the question.

Winny was asking for opinions on what price would be a good price, IF he/she decides to sell her Buff Orpington eggs.

You haven't said any of those things, so it's not real clear at all what you think. Just that I'm wrong because some would, but you haven't said that you would pay $10 for Buff Orpington eggs.

So I'll pose the question to you Chukar: Would you pay $10 for a Buff Orpington egg?

I've tried to help Winny out by giving a pricing point I thought was reasonable (based on research) & tried to assist by discussing target markets, supply versus demand and trying to get that pricing point right through gauging it via the sales process.


If you agree with someone's post, then you say " I agree", because I don't think it was real clear that you agreed with WW at all. It looked to me that you were correcting him.

I'm perfectly calm Chukar, but if I feel I am being attacked over a silly little comment that I made, then I have every right to defend myself, especially when people are trying to put words in my mouth, because I didn't call anyone a sucker.