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Hi, I am new to breeding pekin bantams and would like to know how much success people have had with natural breeding vs AI.

I have had some really good advice about trimming feathers around the vent on both sexes and have done this, but I'm still not sure how successfully they are mating.

Does anyone have any success stories to share to get my hopes up? I don't really want to go down the path of having to AI them.

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Hi debbieo4914,

Welcome, and don't panic I'm sure you will not have to resort to AI. I do not breed Pekins but I have found that the fertility rate with my birds has always been governed by (A) Nutrition, (B) Age of the birds, (C) Vent plucking.

I'm sure PA will advise you as he is a big Pekin breeder.Once again welcome and good luck with your breeding programme.
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Thanks for the quick reply, Snowball!


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Welcome to the forum debbieo4914, we don't breed them either but we have other poultry and have no problems, but what snowball wrote is very good and i would 110% agree. As snowball said Brett or one of the blokes (and girls) from pa will have the answers as they have 100s.




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I breed pekins....fertility right now is terrible i have put over 100 eggs in and so far only got 20 chicks out :o

But with saying that most the breeders i got my birds off Do AI or vent trim...i haven't done either....yet.

I am hoping to learn how to AI with in the next few weeks.....will make things much easier...or will it :-?

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Hi debbieo4914, WELCOME TO THE FORUM Hope you find the Forum Informative & Helpful. We Vent trim all our Pekins every season and to date (32+ Years) have found this an excellent method of increase fertility. We also isolate the Roos for 2 months prior to our breeding season and upon return they & all Hens are trimmed. It should be noted that as per Snowballs post, Diet & Age will play a significant part in egg production & Fertility. Soluble Vitimins & Minerals should be added one month prior to your season & then once a week throughout your season. If after you trim the Pekins and you find fertility is still an issue then remove the roo/s for 3-4 weeks.


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Thanks for all your replies. I will start with the diet supplements and see how we go. They are all on a layer mix and free-range about half the day. I might have to check on the rooster's age - both the hens/pullets that I have with him are laying well with eggs most days.

I just hope I've trimmed them well enough - any hints on this? I noted that some people have talked about "vent plucking" - does this give any better results than trimming (sounds a bit more painful!!). I just have my doubts about the rooster's "technique" as it seems a bit hit-and-miss.


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Hi debbieo4914,
I vent pluck as I have found that with scissor trimming there always seems to be the odd sharpe quill that will sometimes put the rooster off. Also as PA has said I spell my Roosters which I find keeps them sharp and at the same time gives the hens a rest during the non breeding months. The age of your roosters could be a factor if he has been working all his life without a break.
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Hi debbieo4914, Vent plucking is stressing (painful) for the Chickens and has no real benefit over trimming other then it lasts longer. You can trim the birds quite close to the Vent and trim about 3-5 inch in diamiter around the vent area.




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