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 Post subject: Sultans Question!
PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:54 pm 
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Can Sultans With 4 Toes Be Shown?

Also, Can Anyone Who Breeds Sultans Please Contact Me?

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:35 pm 
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No. Even though they are not a recognised breed yet in Australia (well no standard that I am aware of) they still should have 5 toes. 4 toes would be a Houdan or Self White Polish depending on whether clean legged and comb.

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Mine Are Definately Sultans, They Have Vulture Hocks And Feathered Feet, And They Also Won Champion Softfeather At A Show this Year


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Thats great BUT as they only have 4 toes they should have been disqualified as the breed is mean't to have 5 toes. I guess you should be thankful the judge/judges didn't know this fact, but they should have and the judge/judges should be told of their error.

As yours are vulture hocked and feather footed than yes they would be classed as Sultans YET because your birds (or some of them) only have 4 toes than these 4 toed birds are still presenting their breed/s behind them ( probably or Belgian d'Uccle=vulture hocked and feather legged/footed). This basicly means that you are yet to have birds that completely breed true because you still have 4 toes presenting and as previously stated should be a disqualifing fault because Sultans are one of few 5 toed breeds in the world.

You asked a question and I responded, no need to get defensive mate.

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b&p wrote:
No. Even though they are not a recognised breed yet in Australia (well no standard that I am aware of) they still should have 5 toes. 4 toes would be a Houdan or Self White Polish depending on whether clean legged and comb.

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Houdans also have 5 toes!


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Thanks Spotted and apologies for my error.

This than would further my argument that the Sultans are throwing back to a 4 toed, vulture hocked breed in their re-creation somewhere, rather than a houdan.

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First b&p i dont think Tamworth Cresteds was having ago at you the were just stating
Yes the judges should have known,and 4 toed birds should be culled (if they are sold and not killed they should not be sold as Sultans but as bantam crosses)


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Sorry, B&P, I Just Tought I'd Tell You, As I Was Confused That I Won Something, As I Thought That The Birds Have 4 Toes, Instead Of The Afformentioned 5. Thanks For The Replies.


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sorry dont mean to put a fox in the hen house but all my silver dorkings have 5 toes is this normal 8) cheers n beers gary

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Yes. Dorking is one of the five-toed breeds.


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